{"id":5454,"date":"2024-01-06T00:33:54","date_gmt":"2024-01-06T07:33:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.vairtere.com\/spill\/?p=5454"},"modified":"2024-01-05T21:47:57","modified_gmt":"2024-01-06T04:47:57","slug":"dunwannabeunumerikinidiot","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.vairtere.com\/spill\/2024\/01\/06\/dunwannabeunumerikinidiot\/","title":{"rendered":"dunWannabeUnumerikinIdiot"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Putting the tldr; here at the top &#8230; <\/p>\n<p>1) Yes, our web site says our basic plan is $5 a month, and it has said that for months, but <strong>secretly<\/strong> it is now THREE TIMES as much, oh well. <\/p>\n<p>2) The exact same page says paying yearly gets a 25% discount across the board, but <strong>secretly<\/strong> that does not apply to your basic peasant plan. <\/p>\n<p>3) Various vague verbiage suggests there is a ten, or twentyfive percent discount on a second store opened under the same account, but&#8211;guess what? Yep, <strong>secretly<\/strong>, peasant plan gets you nothing and you&#8217;re going to be paying twice as much for the privilege of having two digital storefronts if that&#8217;s what you want.<\/p>\n<p>In any humane and natural system, this would naturally be considered fraudulent. &#8216;False advertising&#8217; at the very least. Am I going to hire a lawyer and try to obtain legal proof of that? No. I am not. I am not a savvy capitalist. I am a peasant neo-merchant with virulent anticapitalist sentiments that have evolved from exactly these kinds of ubiquitous and iniquitous games being played on me my whole effin&#8217; life! Yeah!!<\/p>\n<p>The full transcript, lightly edited to protect the guilty, follows.<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p>01:10 Help Center Assistant: You\u2019re in line to chat with a Support Advisor! I\u2019m still here with you to chat until you get connected.<br \/>\n01:14 System: An advisor has joined the chat<\/p>\n<p>01:14 User Connection Message: User has connected<\/p>\n<p>01:14 (Support Advisor): Hi, this is <em>NameRedacted<\/em>, your Support Advisor!<\/p>\n<p>01:14 Me: Heya!<\/p>\n<p>01:15 Agent (Support Advisor): Hello, I hope you are doing well \ud83d\ude42 I see that you have query about Pricing plans. I&#8217;d be glad to look into this matter further and let&#8217;s work on this together!<\/p>\n<p>01:15 Me: Alrighty, sounds good.<\/p>\n<p>01:15 Me:  &#8230; your pricing page says the Starter plan is $5 a month. But my own plan page says I&#8217;ll be paying $15 when my intro discount ends. <\/p>\n<p>01:19 Me: Can&#8217;t quite understand the disparity. This is the first of three basic questions.<\/p>\n<p>01:20 Agent (Support Advisor): Upon further investigating you are already on your third month of $1 plan. You&#8217;ll be billed $1 subscription plan this end of January<\/p>\n<p>01:20 Agent (Support Advisor): And then, your Starter plan will start on Feb 25 which cost $15.<\/p>\n<p>01:21 Me: Okay. Fair enough, but why does your page at &#8220;mystore&#8221;.com\/pricing say that Starter is $5 a month?<\/p>\n<p>01:22 Agent (Support Advisor): The website is not yet updated until now, I see that updating website seems to take longer than usual. But I&#8217;m sending you here now the updated pricing plans <\/p>\n<p><em>(&#8220;Not updated&#8221; &#8230; this is what they tell the poor drones to say. Agent sends me a link to some page at nerdwallet.com, a completely unrelated site, which DOES have the &#8216;updated&#8217; plans, while somehow this company&#8217;s own site does not, and is supposedly months behind in showing the new, three-times-as-much pricing.)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>01:24 Agent (Support Advisor): You may also check this updated plans on your Settings > Plans. When you wanted to choose a regular plan by then. You&#8217;ll be able to check the updated price before checkout.<\/p>\n<p>01:24 Me: Hmmm. Okay, let&#8217;s leave desperately belated updates to that very basic page alone for now &#8230; the same pricing page says there&#8217;s a 25% discount for paying yearly, but if i start to change to yearly, your page says that it&#8217;s $180, or $15 for 12 months.<\/p>\n<p>01:25 Me: That too seems &#8230; contradictory.<\/p>\n<p>01:25 Agent (Support Advisor): May I please request a screenshot of the pricing plans you&#8217;re seeing on your end? Or is that from the \/pricing still?<\/p>\n<p>01:26 Agent (Support Advisor): I&#8217;m going to check on it now.<\/p>\n<p>01:26 Agent (Support Advisor): This is the page correct?<br \/>\n<em><br \/>\n(I send a barrage of screenshots as requested &#8230; )<\/em><\/p>\n<p>01:28 Agent (Support Advisor): Yes, that&#8217;s correct. I saw the Starter plan cost $5 from there<\/p>\n<p>01:28 Agent (Support Advisor): The pricing was already been updated, but not on the website<\/p>\n<p>01:29 Me: Okay. Once more, not updating it for months is odd, but let&#8217;s leave that aside for now &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>01:30 Agent (Support Advisor): Yes, thank you<\/p>\n<p>01:31 Me: What about lower on the same page where you claim 25% off if i pay yearly?<\/p>\n<p>01:40 Agent (Support Advisor): Actually, what we&#8217;ve checked here is that 25% discounts usually only apply to our Standard plans like the Basic and Advanced. <em>(She means: everything but your Starter plan, bud.)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>01:41 Me: ~shaking my head just a little~ Okay, well, when those lazy website updater guys get back from break, you might want to clarify that one too &#8230;..  ; )<\/p>\n<p>01:42 Me: But again, let&#8217;s leave that marked down as &#8220;Very clear but highly unsatisfying answers&#8221;, because i do have one more question &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>01:43 Me: Which is: If I want to open a second store, is there any volume discount available. for that? Or do i just have to pay another $15+ a month for that second store.<\/p>\n<p>01:45 Agent (Support Advisor): Yes, I understand where you&#8217;re coming from and I just want to inform you that &#8220;<em>companyNameRedacted<\/em> is constantly testing our plans and offerings to ensure we&#8217;re able to provide the right value for our merchants and business. As a result, our plan pricing and availability may vary from time to time to understand what works best for our customers and ensure we can continue offering high-quality features and support.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>01:45 Me: Thanks for the legal CYA verbiage. Much obliged &#8230; ~smiles~<\/p>\n<p>01:46 Agent (Support Advisor): If you&#8217;re going to create a second store, that is as good as new. By then, you have an option to get another $1 for 3 months and then start with getting regular plans afetrwards<\/p>\n<p>01:46 Me: Okay. No discount for two. Got it.<\/p>\n<p>01:47 Me: Thank you very much for your timely support. You&#8217;ve done well. I didn&#8217;t like your answers one little bit, but that&#8217;s not your fault as tech support.<\/p>\n<p>01:47 Agent (Support Advisor): That 25% discount can be applied for everyone, as long as you are getting the Standard plans in yearly basis.<\/p>\n<p>01:48 Me: Alright then. Thanks again. Be well.<\/p>\n<p>01:49 Agent (Support Advisor): Thank you so much, I really appreciate your understand and patience towards this. Rest assures that your feedback about our website are truly helpful. I will definitely let our Developers know about this<\/p>\n<p>01:49 Agent (Support Advisor): Thank you! \ud83d\ude42 Have a wonderful day and Keep safe always.<\/p>\n<p>01:49 System: Chat ended by advisor<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/rumble.com\/v45bnb2-system-update-show-207.html\">Happy January 6th<\/a>, by the way, to the shamans out there and everyone else too. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Putting the tldr; here at the top &#8230; 1) Yes, our web site says our basic plan is $5 a month, and it has said that for months, but secretly it is now THREE TIMES as much, oh well. 2) The exact same page says paying yearly gets a 25% discount across the board, but [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5454","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.vairtere.com\/spill\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5454","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.vairtere.com\/spill\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.vairtere.com\/spill\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.vairtere.com\/spill\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.vairtere.com\/spill\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5454"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/www.vairtere.com\/spill\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5454\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5459,"href":"https:\/\/www.vairtere.com\/spill\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5454\/revisions\/5459"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.vairtere.com\/spill\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5454"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.vairtere.com\/spill\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5454"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.vairtere.com\/spill\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5454"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}