{"id":2603,"date":"2021-08-26T16:00:15","date_gmt":"2021-08-26T23:00:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.vairtere.com\/spill\/?p=2603"},"modified":"2021-08-26T16:00:15","modified_gmt":"2021-08-26T23:00:15","slug":"let-heaven-exist-even-if-this-be-hell","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.vairtere.com\/spill\/2021\/08\/26\/let-heaven-exist-even-if-this-be-hell\/","title":{"rendered":"Let Heaven Exist Even If This Be Hell"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I kept going down the Rupert Read Road and found this:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=neclQ4-dd0M\">On liberatory philosophy and politics in the time of civilisational crisis<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Four incredibly smart people, Rupert, a Finn, a Palestinian, and an Indian, discussing the imminent collapse from a mainly philosophic standpoint. I love the things they take for granted as facts, like that the modern world is an institution where the patients are insane, and the caregiving administrators are even more insane&#8211;The Cuckoo&#8217;s Nest as a documentary about modernity. We&#8217;re not arguing about guns or abortion here. We&#8217;re talking about what actually matters, and starting from a place of common understanding about where we really are. <\/p>\n<p>The best part of it was being introduced to Aseem Shrivastava.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve linked his three best pieces by timestamp and annotated them. I hope you enjoy. Namaste.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/neclQ4-dd0M?t=1285\">21:25-40:00<\/a><\/p>\n<p>We have no idea what freedom even is. How the Enlightenment collaborated in the current destruction. The project of modern civilization ended in 1914&#8211;we&#8217;re living in the post-apocalypse now. The american giant is bleeding out. &#8220;Liberty&#8221; is the consolation prize for losing actual freedom; true freedom cannot be an individualistic process (and later this viewpoint is called &#8220;ontonomy&#8221;). What do you say to someone who knows everything, but is insane? Everyone is necessary, even though no one is indispensible. Tagore prophesized eco-disaster a hundred years ago.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/neclQ4-dd0M?t=5503\">1:31:43-1:44:20<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Possibilism. Is progress necessary; desirable? Pro-science but anti-scientism. How war erodes freedom. The differences between techniques, technology, and technocracy. The relationship between technology and colonialism. Your cellphone is a baby spoon. <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/neclQ4-dd0M?t=6907\">1:55:10-1:58:03<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Our gazes are turned away from Paradise. &#8220;Let heaven exist, even if our estate be hell&#8221; (Borges), and quite a lot more from the world of belletrism, including the spiritual truth behind Joni Mitchell&#8217;s &#8216;Big Yellow Taxi&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>(A little more, for reading, here:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/timesofindia.indiatimes.com\/blogs\/matter-of-tact\/a-critical-transition-from-economics-to-ecosophy\/\">I have not undertaken any journey. The journey has undertaken me.<\/a> )<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I kept going down the Rupert Read Road and found this: On liberatory philosophy and politics in the time of civilisational crisis Four incredibly smart people, Rupert, a Finn, a Palestinian, and an Indian, discussing the imminent collapse from a mainly philosophic standpoint. 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