{"id":2265,"date":"2021-03-31T03:50:07","date_gmt":"2021-03-31T10:50:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.vairtere.com\/spill\/?p=2265"},"modified":"2021-04-09T03:56:47","modified_gmt":"2021-04-09T10:56:47","slug":"carne","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.vairtere.com\/spill\/2021\/03\/31\/carne\/","title":{"rendered":"Carne"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p>I realized that states behave in a way that isn&#8217;t rational, that is ultimately driven by a need to prove the necessity of their own existence.<\/p>\n<p>And this is what anarchists think about all institutions. Institutions ultimately have their own sets of interests which are ulterior.<\/p>\n<p>War, I&#8217;m afraid to say, is one of the ultimate ways that the state proves its own necessity.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211;Carne Ross, British ex-diplomat, October 4 2017<br \/>\nFrom: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=6F73Z1BKhIs\">Does The Establishment Know Anarchy Is The Answer<\/a>? | Under The Skin with Russell Brand\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>He goes on to say that the obvious counter-argument is Hobbesian&#8211;states and law ARE necessary because man is bad.<\/p>\n<p>And he goes on to point out the fallacies of that counter-argument, one that we live and breathe for decades and sometimes whole lives. I won&#8217;t go into that deeply, but think along the lines of:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Without King Bezos, without Kommisar Biden, without Chancellor Putin and Duchess Ocasio-Cortez, why, there&#8217;d be total Chaos!&#8221; (This is essentially the argument for feudal monarchy of one sort or another, and ultimately for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=6KhM9ejvJec\">villainy<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p>After that, some other interesting observations &#8230;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Anarchism has degrees, from the harder almost right-wing libertarian side that says everyone has the right to do whatever they want (like wearing or not wearing a mask or a motorcycle helmet), to more communal forms that embrace direct democracy.<\/li>\n<li>Anarchism has a spiritual side that other forms of politics ignore or lack entirely, and that spirituality is rooted in our real-life relationships to others.<\/li>\n<li>Organizing politically online is ultimately near-useless because the relationships involved are not relationships of real life.<\/li>\n<li>Protesting a thing gives legitimacy to that thing. A better approach, where possible, is to ignore the hateful thing, and create a better alternative to the hateful thing. Don&#8217;t die under their tank tracks. Don&#8217;t vote for someone slightly less worse. Build something better if you can. It might even be fun.<\/li>\n<li>There&#8217;s an example of this in Spain, a mega-coop called Mondragon.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>There are others too, closer to home; one important one the subject of a post to come shortly.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I realized that states behave in a way that isn&#8217;t rational, that is ultimately driven by a need to prove the necessity of their own existence. And this is what anarchists think about all institutions. Institutions ultimately have their own sets of interests which are ulterior. War, I&#8217;m afraid to say, is one of the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_hide_featured_image":false,"_jetpack_featured_image_duplicate_dismissed":0,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2265","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.vairtere.com\/spill\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2265","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.vairtere.com\/spill\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.vairtere.com\/spill\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.vairtere.com\/spill\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.vairtere.com\/spill\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2265"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/www.vairtere.com\/spill\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2265\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2267,"href":"https:\/\/www.vairtere.com\/spill\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2265\/revisions\/2267"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.vairtere.com\/spill\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2265"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.vairtere.com\/spill\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2265"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.vairtere.com\/spill\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2265"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}